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Abbo55 · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: A New Defense

Has anybody ever tried to run the 3-5-3? I think it's a pretty balanced defense because of the speed thats on the field. I like to have my OLBs to act like 3-4 OLBs. I also like I just like the Inside guys to be fast enough to cover the WRs. One more thing is I like to have 3 DTs instead of one with two ends. They need to plug up the whole line to let the LBs run. Here's what it would look like on Madden:

pimpdaddypat · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 268

ive run a 3-5-3 alot. it works best against single-back formations but also does well against other balanced formations. however, i prefer to have my corners back deep and have my outside linebackers to be wide enough and fast enough (almost like strong safeties) to cover the flats or the outside run. consider it.

Abbo55 · Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:33 am Post subject:

I will. Thanks for the suggestion!
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All Star · Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 119

Until I got Madden 06 Sad

with no playbooks usable I used to run a very sucessful 3-5 defense, based on having linebackers all over the field to chase down the running back, a three deep zone, and having multiple LBers blitzing to create pressure, but it kinda looked like this:

pimpdaddypat · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 268

that's more like what i run ... it allows for criss-crossing of linebackers and d-line to create confusion and hopefully break some pressure into the backfield, while maintaining coverage down the field ... with this defense you dont have to have 6 down linemen or blitz 8 people just to get pressure ... you can do it blitizing only 4 or 5 people ... you just have to cause confusion by running a wide range of blitz combinations ... and you are still able to cover the pass ... but i would mainly reccomend it against single-back formations

Abbo55 · Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject:

Do you guys think it would work in the NFL? If it works so well against Singleback formations, and most NFL teams run SB as their base package, then I think it would work based on what I've seen. I've also watched Southern Illinois Univerisity 3-5-3 cutups, and based on what they did, I think it would work.
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Arkaein · Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 333

I think it could be effective in real life, but I'm not sure it would be practical as a base defense.

First of all I don't think single back is the base offense for many NFL teams, although most teams will use a fair amount of single back sets. Another problem is personnel. Most teams don't have 5 decent LBs, and any team that acquired that many would probably have reduced depth and either D-line or DB, which would make the defense slightly more vulnerable to power running teams or four WR sets, if not both.

This kind of defense might also have problems with players like Antonio Gates or Brian Westbrook, players which often demand some DB coverage because most LBs can't keep up with them.

I don't think these deficiencies are huge killers though, and the formation has potential to do some of the same sort of things that 3-4 defenses do, including my Peregrine 3-4.

Looking at the two 3-5-3's presented here I think I like the look of All Star's a bit better. Abbo, the tight coverage by your CBs just leaves some dangerous looking voids deep down the sides. With All Star's version the CB cushion should prevent getting burned too easily while the LBs are spread a bit more to help cover hooks and slants. I'm not sure about All Star's blitz play though, as I'm not much a fan of either 6 man blitzes or Cover 1 coverages. The base play described sounds pretty good though.
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Abbo55 · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:03 am Post subject:

I think any 3-4 team could run this. I mean, they have to have 1 good backup linebacker somewhere on the roster. It actually has worked for many college & HS teams, and I think its only a matter of time until and NFL team tries it.

I think I'll move my CBs back a little and see what happens. I have a good article on the founders of this defense, Georgia Military College. If anyone wants it, post your email.
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pimpdaddypat · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 268

you don't have to have 5 linebackers, the two farthest out "linebackers" could be more like strong safeties if need be ... at least one of them ... like a John Lynch

Abbo55 · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:29 am Post subject:

I think I'll modify mine to look exactly like the one Georgia Military College runs. I have their 2005 playbook, so I should get some good information. I'll let you know if it works as good for me as for them!
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All Star · Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 119

I actually would go more with John Abraham type DE's in the two OLB spots for me, with cover LBers up the middle, with so many LBers on the field they do not need to go sideline to sideline so speed is not important, though on passing downs it would make sense though to add an extra couple of DBs.

Phate · Joined: 16 Dec 2003 Posts: 83 Location: Washington State